An Interview From Inside the MAGA Mind

Supporting Donald Trump not because but in spite of: one man's take.

Martin Galinski makes it all sound so…sane. Which is the craziest thing ever. (Photoshop: Daniel Stevenson)

This substack’s MO: if it obsesses us the prior week it leads by weekend. The Hamas attack on Israel now blots out the sun of our interests in everything else. However what bleeds doesn’t lead here and so while we want to see terrorists crushed, killed and destroyed, saying that now helps no one. But it will, and when it does, we’ll be there.

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The watering hole of Donald Trump and the travails of Donald Trump are a seemingly endless source of either amusement or chagrin. Giving in its taking of our time, interest, and generalized sense of rectitude, Trump has ushered in nothing if not the terrific age of uncertainty where his Archie Bunker-esque takes on modernity are laff-tracked straight into and through the blood and bile of the last seven years. (Longer for us long suffering New Yorkers who have been hep to his game since the ‘70s.)

“I’m sick of people trying to tell me that I’m stupid for supporting Trump,” said a Trump supporter to me in 2016 prior to Trump’s one and only winning run for President. The Trump supporter, who had previously liked Obama though he didn’t vote for him (“I felt like he’d be a good way to prove that all of this ‘America is Racist’ crap was bullshit,” he said. “Now it’s worse than EVER!” he recently concluded.), was in high dudgeon.

A Navy guy raised by kids of the ‘60’s, and all of the non-structure that that might imply, simply refused to not believe that Trump was the ultimate antiestablishment choice. An idea he’s carried straight through to 2023, a year that finds Trump knee deep in multiple trials against a variety of civil and criminal charges.

Surely these might/must have dampened his enthusiasm for the man and his “message” right?

Wrong: Martin Galinski’s 2023 take is curiously unrepentant and while it seems to reek of the systematic denial of the reality of experience to hear him tell it, with dispassionate philosophical aplomb, it sort of almost makes sense. That he would feel that way.

Did he sway us? Not even a little. Will he sway you? Only time will tell.

OK...let's level set. The reason we're here is because at one point you said to me that it was your belief that the multiple charges against Trump held no water. In other words, not a SINGLE one of them was credible. How accurate is my memory here?

Martin Galinski: I think that's correct. It seems to me for some reason the left and some establishment Republicans are deathly afraid of Trump winning 2024, in no way that I can remember of another candidate previously, using the full weight of the mainstream media, government intelligence agencies and now the executive justice system. I think what we're looking at is the equivalent to "Show me the man, and I'll show you the crime". No, I do not trust this is a good faith exercise in law enforcement by the executive branch of government. Although, I do not know all the ins and outs of the legal arguments as most media coverage is about generating the story that Trump has been indicted, and for many people, that’s all they want to hear  and don't seem to mind that this may be an unethical and dangerous precedent for use of governmental power in the United States.

“Show me the man, and I’ll show you the crime.” But in this instance it’s CRIMES, plural…91, I think I read at last count. Statistically speaking I am trying to understand how you believe all 91 are part of a conspiracy. Or do you mean to say even if he’s guilty of some, those should be disregarded because they’re not being pursued in the interest of justice?

MG: I believe it's a common tactic, both as propaganda and as a legal strategy, to try to attach as many superfluous charges as possible for a few reasons.

1.) You don't know what you're going to be able to get to stick (throw as much shit at a wall strategy),

2.) Confuse the defense, which of these charges should we focus on for defense and

3.) Make a big number for propaganda purposes...much like what you've done here with the question as if the NUMBER is big, therefore SOMETHING must be right.

So, the OZY Media defense, which is, “I just did what everyone else did and if I am being charged it's because the system is crooked”, works here for you? Even in light of the fact that SOME people actually do go to jail when facing the charges that Trump is facing.

MG: I think Carlos Watson may claim he's being unfairly targeted, but it isn't as obvious as it is with Trump...at least in my opinion. I'm not sure who has gone to jail for the same charges as Trump or if the conditions were the same, and I don't think you know either.

We’ve never had a President do what he’s done. Or do they all do as he’s done? Attempting to subvert elections, lying about finances, documents in the shitter, and rape in dressing rooms?

MG: Are you sure that's true? Who's being naive here? (laughs) You've got proof of rape? I don't think you do...this is just your confirmation bias. I get you don't like the guy, so that keeps you from being objective. 

Of course, I understand your skepticism, in that some of those charges are un-precedented. For example the sedition ones covering January 6 and his incitement. Do you find him to blameless for the events of January 6 and if so, why are so many people who are going to jail crediting him for their presence that day?

MG: I don't blame Trump for January 6 and it's very difficult to prove he is the cause. Most people who say he is the cause are so blinded with Trump hatred, they cannot reason logically. I think January 6 is exactly what the opposition wanted, which is why there were an unknown number of undercover government agents involved (provocateurs, possibly?) and a completely understaffed Capitol police force. There was no way a bunch of morons were going to overthrow the election, and anyone who says otherwise is being willfully ignorant.

But based on the phone calls it seems he believed it was as easy as securing Pence. You say “a bunch of morons” but he spoke to them minutes before they attacked. And he spoke on the basis of his belief that he was robbed. And he was enjoying what he had wrought that day refusing entreaties to send people home. And he’s threatening violent retaliation for these law suits. Or suggesting it. Denying a causal connection seems strange when the actor himself is not doing so. But you stand by this?

MG: He spoke to them??? Really, who else spoke to them? Is whoever spoke to the crowd guilty of sedition? I believe he believes it was stolen and there isn't evidence that it wasn't. No investigation, just shut up and take it. As far as threatening violence, he himself is not threatening violence, he's talking about what can happen if democracy is subverted. I don't see any positive motivation for causing a capitol storm on January 6th except for the establishment...who's running this 24/7 with a certain amount of glee.... really, who benefits from it? 

Given how divisive he's been, how do you think him winning the presidency in 2024 plays out vis a vis the healthy functioning of democracy, long term?

MG: I actually don't see him as divisive, it's the complete overreaction that's divisive. I think he's good for democracy...he's what a functioning democracy looks like! What we're seeing is the power of the people to elect someone who the established government bureaucracy has not ordained. It's exactly why they are terrified of him. The gravy train of amassing millions on a meager civil servants budget is being threatened. Lifelong government employees have been deciding amongst themselves who will be next on the ballot...looks like they fucked up, and they know it.

Insulting women, fat people, crippled people, suggesting journalists should be beaten? If this is not divisive how do you frame it? The government establishment has not ordained him and yet he’s stolen like every one else. How does that make him better? Him thumbing his nose at them when he does it?

MG: Ha! Not sure where to begin with this...women can't be insulted based on the fact that they're women, why? I'll just say hiding behind people who are clutching their pearls is a manipulation at best (the crippled people and beaten journalist line is laughable)...at worst it's an attempt to control divergent thought through political correctness. It's a cheap ploy to try and score points...may work with some people.

Well, is it the man or his policies that attract you? And win or lose, providing he doesn't suspend democracy after he wins 2024, what of his platform attracts you in regards to the future of this country?

MG: Policies first. Although he cracks me up and I love the guy for sticking his finger in the eye of the permanent government class. I think his foreign policy is spot on...no wars during his presidency. No missiles over Japan from NK. I love his pro-business, lower tax stance.… He has very traditional values for most policies, and I think political correctness is the slow death of individual freedom and thought. 

What’s a traditional value?

MG: Individual responsibility might be one of the more valuable ones, and out of vogue for current culture.

“The judge came up with a 18-25 M estimate. He used the tax assessors value of the property he [Trump] bought in 1985. The judge applied the same ‘logic’ to all of his other properties and then accused him [Trump] of fraud. Here’s a 300M parking lot just a few houses down the street.”

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