interesting interview! new to the site, really excited to read more from you eugene.
i personally feel that to some extent individuals are merely a conduit for expression, and no art truly belongs to the maker. listened to joe rogan when tony hawk was on it and enjoyed it too !
1) Class is everything; 2) Culture>Money; 3) Fathers; 4) How do you classify the women that went to Bill Cosby for career advice? 5) Isn't that a Jim Brown quote?
Last thought, kids: Never trust anyone who doesn't like Joe Rogan. Without fail, they NEVER know what they are talking about—and always turn out to be awful people.
Man, this is really sad to read. I'm from Chicago and know some of the same people as Albini. He always seemed like a really cool guy. Now, he just seems...well, not very bright at all.
The idea that we can remove the art from the artist blah, blah, blah... you either like it or you don’t. Rock n Roll is music of the loins. If you have ever been in a punk club or a pretentious indie music store you understand that the Steve Albinis of the world ruined Rock music. Humorless, pretentious fashionista gatekeepers. Barstools might be trash but it’s sports radio what do you expect. Rohan’s just a guy with a podcast. You talk for three hours a day and film it and you’ll say some stupid shit too. What is an anti woke comic anyway? “ I like transgressive art as much as the next guy but!” No you don’t asshole. When I think of great exploiters of people I think of Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg etc. Didn’t realize Joe Rohan was an exploiter. Anyway pretentious assholes like Steve Albini didn’t save rock they ruined it, became to private school.
Aint used to posting - sending with spelling and gramatical errors corrected.
I have huge respect for Albini but he's mistaking someone interviewing someone as having the same views as them - Rogan is no rightwing bigot - he questions these subjects in a open and intelligent manner.
While this might not be agreeable that hes giving these people this platform he's given pro-far left - a platform - pro-trans - and questioned them on the implications of this. The mainstream media have pretty much labelled anyone who questions trans issues as a bigot silencing any discussion of the effect of hormone changing drugs on children.
Albini had a band that he admitably has been regretful of - Rapeman - ffs - far more extremely bigoted than Rogan has been involved with.
But this 'wokeness' - the same media that are now aghast at racism and hatred were the same news outlets publishing articles that would perpetuate stereotypes with no basis in reality a few years back.
So now that they seem to have a moralistic viewpoint that is agreed upon this should be respected?
This is all put into focus by PR companies behind the scenes.
That Albini, a man with integrity and heart, can then be in the position of supporting/criticising what the PR companys are pushing show the power of them.
That no one is discussing what Neuralink/Starlink is and the potential impact on your lives shows that you've all been distracted.
Two questions, being genuine, no irony or contrarianism:
1. What did Costello do?
2. Is it possible to separate the art from the artist, in the way John defines it in the comments, when the artist did the horrible thing AFTER the work you love them for? Like Mark Kozelek and Ryan Adams deserve their punishments, but the stuff I enjoyed from them came WAY before they did what they did.
Other than that, a fantastic article. Was really interesting in understanding Albini's viewpoints on transgressive considering he worked with Whitehouse on some of their most unnerving material. Really enlightening, both Albini's answers, and your writing. Love your work in Oxbow, will definitely check out more of your writing. Thank you :-)
"The idea that we can remove the artist from the art means that art isn't communicating anything after all, it's just decoration, an amusement." This completely ignores the effect/experience of the art on the person enjoying it.
Great read. The text of the answer to question number five inevitably will be quilted on to a large white pillow.
interesting interview! new to the site, really excited to read more from you eugene.
i personally feel that to some extent individuals are merely a conduit for expression, and no art truly belongs to the maker. listened to joe rogan when tony hawk was on it and enjoyed it too !
Great interview, love you both. Keep doing what you're doing.
Best interview I've read in a minute, thank you so much
1) Class is everything; 2) Culture>Money; 3) Fathers; 4) How do you classify the women that went to Bill Cosby for career advice? 5) Isn't that a Jim Brown quote?
Thank you for asking him these questions! Definitely a part of his voice that you don’t get to hear often, certainly not often enough! Great work.
Last thought, kids: Never trust anyone who doesn't like Joe Rogan. Without fail, they NEVER know what they are talking about—and always turn out to be awful people.
Man, this is really sad to read. I'm from Chicago and know some of the same people as Albini. He always seemed like a really cool guy. Now, he just seems...well, not very bright at all.
The idea that we can remove the art from the artist blah, blah, blah... you either like it or you don’t. Rock n Roll is music of the loins. If you have ever been in a punk club or a pretentious indie music store you understand that the Steve Albinis of the world ruined Rock music. Humorless, pretentious fashionista gatekeepers. Barstools might be trash but it’s sports radio what do you expect. Rohan’s just a guy with a podcast. You talk for three hours a day and film it and you’ll say some stupid shit too. What is an anti woke comic anyway? “ I like transgressive art as much as the next guy but!” No you don’t asshole. When I think of great exploiters of people I think of Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg etc. Didn’t realize Joe Rohan was an exploiter. Anyway pretentious assholes like Steve Albini didn’t save rock they ruined it, became to private school.
Another woke pussy. Cobain must have brainwashed him with that Evergreen State faggotry before he offed himself.
You are talking about something Elvis Costello said in a bar in 1979? Seriously?
Aint used to posting - sending with spelling and gramatical errors corrected.
I have huge respect for Albini but he's mistaking someone interviewing someone as having the same views as them - Rogan is no rightwing bigot - he questions these subjects in a open and intelligent manner.
While this might not be agreeable that hes giving these people this platform he's given pro-far left - a platform - pro-trans - and questioned them on the implications of this. The mainstream media have pretty much labelled anyone who questions trans issues as a bigot silencing any discussion of the effect of hormone changing drugs on children.
Albini had a band that he admitably has been regretful of - Rapeman - ffs - far more extremely bigoted than Rogan has been involved with.
But this 'wokeness' - the same media that are now aghast at racism and hatred were the same news outlets publishing articles that would perpetuate stereotypes with no basis in reality a few years back.
So now that they seem to have a moralistic viewpoint that is agreed upon this should be respected?
This is all put into focus by PR companies behind the scenes.
That Albini, a man with integrity and heart, can then be in the position of supporting/criticising what the PR companys are pushing show the power of them.
That no one is discussing what Neuralink/Starlink is and the potential impact on your lives shows that you've all been distracted.
Two questions, being genuine, no irony or contrarianism:
1. What did Costello do?
2. Is it possible to separate the art from the artist, in the way John defines it in the comments, when the artist did the horrible thing AFTER the work you love them for? Like Mark Kozelek and Ryan Adams deserve their punishments, but the stuff I enjoyed from them came WAY before they did what they did.
Other than that, a fantastic article. Was really interesting in understanding Albini's viewpoints on transgressive considering he worked with Whitehouse on some of their most unnerving material. Really enlightening, both Albini's answers, and your writing. Love your work in Oxbow, will definitely check out more of your writing. Thank you :-)
"The idea that we can remove the artist from the art means that art isn't communicating anything after all, it's just decoration, an amusement." This completely ignores the effect/experience of the art on the person enjoying it.